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`--disable-gil` builds are not compatible with the limited API Β· Issue #111506 Β· python/cpython
Description:
Bug report After #110764, --disable-gil builds of CPython 3.13 are (temporarily) not be compatible with the limited API or the stable ABI due to modifications to the PyObject header. For context, this was noted in the "Backwards Compatib...
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      headline:`--disable-gil` builds are not compatible with the limited API
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